This Time I'm the One Being Interviewed

Michelle Mudge-Riley recently interviewed me about my wonderful nonclinical careers. She runs Physicians Helping Physicians , a site that helps physicians land new careers. She interviews physicians like me who have developed interesting side hustles or careers outside of medical practice, and posts the podcasts on the site.


Along with a dozen other physicians, I’m helping Michelle and PHP to present it’s first major conference dedicated to career transition this coming April. The conference is designed to share information about nonclinical careers and side-gigs.

That meeting is being held in Austin, Texas, on April 6 and 7. In anticipation of the meeting, Michelle interviewed me for her podcast. Her podcast episodes generally involve a discussion with a physician about their career transition. So, I had an opportunity to discuss my career transitions with her. I say transitions, because I have changed careers several times, and engaged in several side-gigs before leaving clinical medicine completely.

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I received my MD from the University of Illinois College of Medicine, and a master’s degree in public health from the Medical College of Wisconsin. Taking advantage of the American Association for Physician Leadership, I attended leadership training and achieved designation as a certified physician executive (CPE).

I enjoyed clinical medicine. But I was always interested in pursuing other things. Besides serving on committees and boards, I was part-time medical director for family planning and occupational medicine clinics.

Currently, I split my time as an urgent care medical director, and publishing the weekly Physician Nonclinical Careers Podcast. I guess I'm not slowing down!

My ultimate goal is to become a resource for physicians looking to change careers.

John Jurica

Although I liked providing one-on-one care to patients, I knew I could help more patients by transitioning to a physician administrator role. With public health training, I had a desire to improve the care of populations of patients.

Influencing People with the Podcast

Always looking for something new to learn and do, I enjoyed writing, so why not start a blog? That way, I could share what I've learned from pursuing various careers with others.



The Vital Physician Executive Blog transformed into the Physician Nonclinical Careers Podcast to make a bigger impact on listeners. With the podcast, I can interview other physicians about the wonderful nonclinical careers they have enjoyed. I'm learning along with my listeners!

Two of my favorite episodes include:

In addition to the podcast, I plan to offer courses and mentoring programs. My ultimate goal is to become a resource for physicians looking to change careers.

Physicians are Natural Leaders

Physicians tend to be natural leaders due to the vigorous and focused training they receive. However, we need more physician leaders. Currently, physicians only run about 6 percent of hospitals.

And physicians deserve to find a career that brings them joy and allows them to work in their “Zone of Genius.” Only then can we do the jobs we were born to do.

Looking back, I can honestly say that I enjoyed all of my wonderful nonclinical careers!

Links for today's episode:

Dr. John Jurica on Facebook
Dr. John Jurica’s Physician Nonclinical Careers Podcast
Dr. John Jurica’s Vital Physician Executive Blog
How To Land Three Popular Hospital Management Jobs (free guide)
Dr. Michelle Mudge-Riley
Physicians Helping Physicians
American Association for Physician Leadership
The Big Leap Book by Gay Hendricks

Thanks to our sponsor…

Thanks to the UT Physician Executive MBA program for sponsoring the show. It’s an outstanding, highly rated, MBA program designed for working physicians. It might be just what you need to prepare for that joyful, well-paying career. You can find out more at

Thanks again for listening to the story explaining how I found my wonderful nonclinical careers. I hope to see you next time on the PNC Podcast.

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