In this episode, my guest helps you to break through the mindset that's keeping you from pursuing a new career. But before we get into the interview, let me mention a couple of other important topics.

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PNC Podcast Milestone

First, this post represents a minor podcast milestone – Episode Number 10. As I reflect on these first 10 episodes, I want to thank you for joining me. You’re the reason I’ve created this podcast. I’m still learning, and I hope that I’m meeting your needs.

One thing I try to do is bring resources that you’ll find helpful on your journey to a new career. One of the resources I might not have formally mentioned before is the Facebook Group dedicated to physicians like you. It’s called Physician Nonclinical Career Hunters. It’s moderated by Laura McKain, a physician very well acquainted with the transition to a nonclinical career. I strongly encourage you to join the conversation there if you want to learn more about career options.

I bring it up here, in part, because I sometimes ask the members of the group for advice about this podcast. I’ve recently received feedback that the majority of potential listeners prefer episodes that are 20 to 30 minutes in length. A few of my prior episodes were close to, or exceeded, an hour.

So, I’m going to make a concerted effort to keep my episodes shorter. That’s one reason I broke up the discussion of LinkedIn into two parts.

Since my goal is to meet your needs, I’m sincere when I say that I welcome feedback, so please let me know how I can better serve you.

Other Podcasts by Physicians

Before I get to today’s interview, I want to provide one more bit of potentially useful information. Since you’re listening, you probably like podcasts about physicians trying new things, including new careers. So, I’m going to tell you about other podcasts by physicians for physicians today and in coming weeks. I think you’ll be inspired and entertained by them.

This week’s selection for a formal review is Docs Outside the Box, by Nii Darko.

I’ve been listening to Nii since early 2017. When I found his podcast, he had already posted a dozen or so episodes, so I “binged” and caught up. Now I listen to each to new episode as its released.

I like it because it's inspirational, and I'm constantly amazed by the varied backgrounds and careers created by his physician guests.

Nii is an accomplished trauma surgeon who continues to practice. His podcast “brings stories of ordinary doctors doing extraordinary things to inspire other docs to think outside the box… guests are living proof that doctors can break free from the exam room.”

Seeing his success inspired me to start this podcast, and I'm indebted to him for that.

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So, here’s my shout out to Dr. Nii Darko.

He can easily be found by searching for Docs Outside the Box on iTunes, Stitcher and Google Play. I’m sure he’d love it if you listened and then reviewed his podcast if you like it. And tell him I sent you.

I’ll be bringing reviews of other podcasts by physicians with each of the next 5 or 6 episodes, so be sure to listen to upcoming episodes for that.

Is Your Mindset Blocking You?

Now, let's get to this very enlightening interview. In it, Michelle Mudge-Riley shares the wisdom she developed through years of coaching physicians struggling with burnout and career transition.

She’s a consultant, coach, and entrepreneur. In addition to her medical training, she holds a master’s degree in health administration, and is a registered dietitian. She’s the president and founder of Physicians Helping Physicians. Through PHP she assists physicians with career enhancement and career transition.

She spent the past 10 years empowering and advising doctors, helping them to reduce or avoid burnout, and to diversify their skill sets. Most recently, she has started a new venture (DocRD) in which she provides evidence-based health and nutrition information, combined with motivational coaching techniques to improve people's lives and reduce health care costs.

Here are some of the questions she addresses during our conversation:

  1. Has the interest in career change continued to grow?
  2. What are the factors leading physicians to pursue career transition?
  3. How can mentors, small steps and networking help?
  4. When physicians decide to seek a new career, what kind of mindset or self-limiting beliefs hold them back?
  5. What is the most important hurdle that physicians must overcome as they begin this journey?
  6. How might personal or career coaching help the struggling physician?

Michelle addresses these issues in a clear and compelling way, with simple tactics to overcome the barriers that might arise.

She outlines some of the steps that can be taken to reduce our fears, address our mindset and expedite the process of finding a new calling.  Among them are networking with colleagues, seeking mentors, creating a plan, taking regular small steps, and interacting with a coach.

Be sure to listen to the podcast for the specific advice she has to offer.


Here is a list of resources mentioned in this episode:

Previous Episodes

If you missed prior podcast episodes, check them out at iTunes or Stitcher

Here are the first three episodes to get you started:

  1. Getting Acquainted – 001
  2. Proper Way to Pivot – 002
  3. Seeking an MBA – 003

Come Back Next Week

Thanks so much for joining me. I really appreciate your time and attention. I’ll be with you again soon – right here at Physician NonClinical Careers.

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