Interview with Dr. Barbara Loeb
In my quest to promote physician leadership, I've been looking for an awesome physician executive to interview. So, I invited Dr. Barbara Loeb to tell us about her career journey.
Barbara is an accomplished physician executive and leader. Currently, she’s the Associate Chief Medical Officer (CMO) of Population Health at Loyola Medicine.
But Barbara started her career as your typical general internist, running a small practice in the Chicago area. Well into her clinical career, she decided to pursue a career in hospital management. She took on leadership roles in the largest health system in the Chicago area, called Advocate Physician Partners, while still practicing as an independent physician in that system.
Then, she moved into the role of full-time VP for Medical Affairs at one of the newly aquired hospitals, where she developed many of the leadership and management skills she would later apply.
She left Advocate to became CMO for a hospital in the largest Catholic health system in the Chicago area, Presence Health.
Later, she took on the job of chief medical officer for a new health plan in Illinois, called Land of Lincoln. I first met her there, when I represented my hospital on one of the committees she chaired for the plan.
She left that position to become CMO for a four-hospital health system in Chicago that was part of Tenet Healthcare, a for-profit national health system. When the Chicago hospitals were later spun off, Barbara became part of Loyola Medicine in Chicago, where she now serves as Population Health Associate Chief Medical Officer.
During this wide-ranging interview, we address many issues that face the emerging physician executive. And Barbara provides specific advice about how to prepare yourself for a such a career.
Growing Up in Chicago
Barbara was born and raised near Chicago by a single mother. The family struggled to find medical care without insurance.
Watching her mother go through such challenges inspired Barbara to pursue a career in medicine. “I thought I could help by being a physician and treating patients in the area that I grew up in.”
After graduating from Northwestern University and completing the internal medicine residency program at Loyola University Chicago Stritch School of Medicine, Barbara became even more excited about becoming a physician and starting her own practice. “It was sort of a dream come true.”
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Barbara was happy working in her practice taking care of patients for several years. But she gradually became interested in making a bigger difference in health care. Medicine was changing a lot, and she wanted to take a leadership role.
She decided to differentiate herself from other physicians by continuing her education, eventually completing her MBA. And she volunteered to serve on various hospital and health system committees to improve her understanding of organizational and leadership concepts.
Barbara accumulated diverse experience and knowledge beyond her clinical craft. “I moved through so many different things while I was an independent physician, and I felt it helped get me ready to do something further.”
Also, she found mentors who encouraged and supported her efforts to be an awesome physician leader. And these mentors supported her desire to focus on quality and outcomes, not the bottom line.
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Learning at the Studer Group
Barbara benefited by spending time working as a consultant at the Studer Group. That experience provided an understanding and tools to address satisfaction for patients, physicians, and employees.
Here are a few lessons Barbara learned from Studer:
- Being present
- Treating others with respect
- Communicating effectively
- Creating a positive work culture
Those lessons were helpful in her subsequent leadership roles. She ultimately moved to a hospital in Chicago that was part of the Tenet Health System. When her hospital was sold to Loyola, she joined the leadership team as Associate Chief Medical Officer.
There, she is now responsible for the development, implementation, and oversight of the the medical management for delegated health plan functions, including value based care programs and bundled payments.
Unless they decide otherwise, physicians can be in practice for life. However, becoming an awesome physician executive involves changing your mindset. And you may need to make sacrifices because advancing your career requires:
- Flexibility and perpetual learning, since each job presents new challenges;
- Accepting reduced job security and more frequent job change, especially if you want to advance to more challenging positions; and,
- Multiple moves, sometimes to distant locations.
We touched on so many other topics during this conversation. I encourage you to listen to teh entire interview. Also, you can download a transcript of the interview by clicking the blue button above.
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Links for today's episode:
- Dr. Barbara Loeb’s Email Address
- Dr. Barbara Loeb on LinkedIn
- Loyola Medicine
- Northwestern University
- Loyola University Chicago Stritch School of Medicine
- Rush University
- Land of Lincoln: Health Plan Initiative
- American Association for Physician Leadership (AAPL) (formerly known as American College of Physician Executives)
- Studer Group
- Malcolm Baldrige National Quality Award
- Epic EMR
- Tenet Healthcare
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