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Presentation by John Jurica – 357

In today's show, John introduces and describes the Nonclinical Career Academy and MemberClub, emphasizing their extensive resources for physicians seeking nonclinical careers. 

He explains the various courses and bundles available, including options for monthly or lifetime memberships. John also mentions a special discount code, RELAUNCH2024, for a significant reduction on lifetime membership during the relaunch week.


Our Show Sponsor

We're proud to have the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA Program, offered by the Haslam College of Business, as the sponsor of this podcast. The UT PEMBA is the longest-running, and most highly respected physician-only MBA in the country. It has over 700 graduates. And, the program only takes one year to complete. By joining the UT Physician Executive MBA, you will develop the business and management skills you need to find a career that you love. To find out more, contact Dr. Kate Atchley’s office at (865) 974-6526 or go to nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.


For Podcast Listeners

  • John hosts a short Weekly Q&A Session addressing any topic related to physician careers and leadership. Each discussion is now posted for you to review and apply. Sometimes all it takes is one insight to take you to the next level of your career. Check out the Weekly Q&A and join us for only $5.00 per month.
  • If you want access to dozens of lessons dedicated to nonclinical and unconventional clinical careers, you should join the Nonclinical Career Academy MemberClub. For a small monthly fee, you can access the Weekly Q&A Sessions AND as many lessons and courses as you wish. Click the link to check it out, and use the Coupon CodeFIRSTMONTHFIVE” to get your first month for only $5.00.
  • The 2024 Nonclinical Summit is over. But you can access all the fantastic lectures from our nationally recognized speakers, including Dr. Dike Drummond, Dr. Nneka Unachukwu, Dr. Gretchen Green, and Dr. Mike Woo-Ming. Go to Nonclinical Summit and enter Coupon Code “30-OFF” for a $30 discount.

Discovering Nonclinical Career Options for Physicians

In this segment, John discusses the genesis of his podcast and the pressing need for resources to assist clinicians in exploring nontraditional career paths. The podcast initially served as a platform for John to delve into the world of unconventional careers for physicians. That enabled him to learn while sharing insights and learnings from his guests.

Over time, the podcast evolved into a vital resource for clinicians seeking to leverage their medical training and experience in new and innovative ways, helping them regain autonomy, reduce overwhelm, and achieve a stable income.

The Evolution of the Nonclinical Career Academy

John explains how his journey led to the creation of the Nonclinical Career Academy, an educational platform designed to support physicians in transitioning to nonclinical roles. Initially starting with a few courses, the academy has grown to include a variety of resources. These include detailed lectures on becoming a Chief Medical Officer (CMO), transitioning into medical science liaison (MSL) roles, and exploring dozens of other nontraditional careers.

The Academy now offers a comprehensive membership model, providing unlimited access to 28 courses and ongoing updates. It has become a valuable tool for those committed to long-term career development.

Exclusive Benefits of Joining the NonClinical Career Academy

John highlights the benefits of joining the Nonclinical Career Academy, especially during the relaunch period. Members who join this week receive exclusive bonuses and a discounted rate, which will not be available after Saturday, June 22, 2024. The academy offers flexible membership options, including monthly subscriptions and a one-time fee for lifetime access so members can choose a plan that best fits their needs. The platform is continuously updated with new content including regular Q&A sessions, providing a rich and evolving resource for physicians exploring nonclinical careers.

Summary

John highlights the Nonclinical Career Academy this week. As part of this week's relaunch physicians can receive a sizeable discount for the lifetime membership, by using the code RELAUNCH2024 when registering for the membership HERE.

You can get a one-month MemberClub TRIAL for only $1.00 by choosing the monthly subscription and entering the Coupon Code TRIAL at checkout. After the first month, the $57 monthly membership fee will apply until you withdraw from the MemberClub. 

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How to Exploit the Surprising Nonclinical Career Academy

John: Okay folks, today it's just me. I decided to take one show to tell you all about one of the projects I've been working on for several years. When I started in the world of nonclinical and non-traditional careers, it was pretty much a hobby. I had worked several nonclinical careers during my career and I wanted to learn more about what was available. So 70 years ago, I started the podcast and the reason I did that was I could learn more about unconventional careers for physicians from my guests.

And as I was doing that, I recognized that there is really a huge demand for services to help clinicians to figure out how to leverage their training and experience in unconventional ways to regain their autonomy, reduce overwhelm, and make a decent income. Early on, there weren't that many resources and there were a few coaches that I met early on like Heather Fork and Michelle Modriely and Starla Fitch and others. And over time, they started producing other products as well. Some of them started doing group coaching, some went into speaking and lecturing on the topic.

And then there were a couple of podcasts at the time. Then people began to create online courses. And even some people started writing books. For example, I have 50 NonClinical Careers by Sylvie Stacey and my friend wrote a book about locum tenens that was Andrew Willner. And there've been other books along the way, which I often refer to.

Now, I never became a coach per se, but I've done other things to try and help my colleagues. I've had at least two or three mastermind groups and I've helped produce and host two live online summits so far. And about four or five years ago, I started something I called the NonClinical Career Academy. And I have promoted that off and on over the years and I've started to accumulate some students in the academy, but I've never spent an entire show telling you what it is, how it's morphed over the years and what it can do for you. So I thought that I would do that today.

Now, before I get started, let me ask you to do something for me and for your colleagues. Some of you have been with me for years and years, and you've already heard about the NonClinical Career Academy. Some of you may even be members of it as I'm speaking. I assume that maybe you'll drop off today's show, but if you have a colleague who is fed up and burned out or just becoming curious about alternative, nonclinical careers, unconventional careers for physicians or even PAs and NPs, and they don't know where to find good information about it, then you should definitely refer this podcast episode and this show to them today.

And the reason I say today is because on the day that this is being released, which usually is on a Tuesday, I suppose I could release it maybe a day early just to get a little more exposure, but I'm in the middle of a relaunch of the NonClinical Career Academy and its associated member club, and there are definitely some benefits to joining this week.

And I'll give you more information at the end of today's episode, but definitely if you join this week, you're going to have some benefits that will expire on Saturday. You'll still be able to get in after Saturday, but you'll end up paying more and not getting some additional bonuses. So before I get any further, let me share a couple of important messages.

First, I want to remind you that this podcast is sponsored by the Physician Executive MBA Program at the University of Tennessee, Knoxville's Haslam College of Business. In less than one calendar year, this program will equip you with the valuable business acumen and leadership development not found in the traditional medical school curriculum. Are you ready to join the longest running physician-only MBA program in the country and a network of nearly a thousand PEMBA graduates? Contact Dr. Kate Atchley's office at 865-974-6526 to do that, or go to nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.

They've been a long sponsor. I just talked to Kate Atchley about a week or so ago, and they've definitely had some of you inquire and actually join their program. I've heard nothing but good things about the PEMBA. And like I mentioned in the past, joining one of the benefits is really to become part of that large group of graduates who then you can network with for jobs and projects. So I really encourage you to go to nonclinical physicians.com/physicianmba and check it out.

The next sponsorship is for myself in a way, and it's about sponsoring this show, the Physician Nonclinical Careers podcast. Why would you want to do that? Well, because as a sponsor, you'll reach thousands of physicians. So you can sell your products and services or build your following. Your message will be heard on the podcast, seen on our website, in our newsletters and emails and in social media posts. So if you want to learn more about being a sponsor, then go to nonclinicalphysicians.com/sponsorships.

All right, now let me move into today's important topic. And I'm calling it how to exploit the surprising nonclinical career academy. So this is a somewhat spontaneous and informal episode, and I'm kind of winging it here today. But I get a lot of questions. As I've been doing a weekly Q&A. I think I'm up to about the 35th or 36th iteration of that. And it's just common questions I get over and over again. How do I get started? How do I get into telehealth? How do I get into AI? How do I become a physician advisor? How do I become a physician leader or executive?

And so in addition to producing the podcast about five years ago, I started working on the nonclinical career academy. And basically, I created courses. Some of those are courses with multiple lectures that you can do over a period of weeks, really. Some of them are individual lectures that I've given elsewhere, or that I've created specifically for the academy. And at the beginning, I think I loaded initial six or eight courses. And this is hosted on Teachable.

Teachable is a platform that allows me to go in there, edit things, update things, and add new courses all the time. And so I've been doing that over the last four or five years. And what I did was I just started compiling these courses, tried to cover everything that I felt I was well versed enough and expert enough in talking about.

So there's multiple courses on becoming a hospital CMO. And there's courses on things like work, other work in the hospital as a medical director, work as a physician advisor, or what they call, they do call it a medical director when you're doing, let's say, insurance company, benefits management, and utilization management on the hospital side, they call you a physician advisor. So because of that, I started creating those courses.

I also have posted two or three interviews to help expand what I can cover using the expertise of others. And basically, I'm up to now 28 individual courses. And I'm going to show you this for those that are going to be looking at the video. I'm going to switch over to a video of the actual academy in a moment. So I have a bundle on hospital management, which means I have 11 courses put together as one entity that you can purchase it separately. I've got eight courses into an overview of nonclinical careers. Again, in Teachable, they call that a bundle. So you can purchase those eight.

And then about three years ago, I decided to add a membership version of this. The membership is different in the sense that instead of paying for each individual lecture or course, you can just become a member. And you can come and stay as long as you like. And as long as you're a member, you can access everything that's in there, which now includes the 28 individual courses plus the 30-some Q&A episodes that I've already recorded and anything new that comes in the future. And I even expanded the membership to be either an ongoing membership that you can purchase and then drop off. If you think you're only going to be in there for a few months, it's a less costly option.

The other thing is I made available an option to get a lifetime membership. For one fee, you can be in there forever. And as new things are added, you continue to have access to those. So if this for you is more of a long-term commitment that you know is going to take more than a year, year and a half, two years, whatever, you can pay one price and get lifetime access. And then you can even interact with me and ask me for additional resources. And then I can actually work on those. I created it because I knew there was a demand and it was a way to, rather than do one-on-one coaching, share this with a lot of people.

The member club is a part that I call the membership. So I'll talk a little bit as I present this final 10 or 15 minutes of the presentation today. And I think it can be very helpful to you and others who might be looking for a quick way to learn as much and be as selective in what you want to learn, go right to the things that are most interesting to you without searching over the entire internet, buying a bunch of books and so forth.

I put together as much information and inspiration as I can for beginners and for those who are early in their journey. Like I said, I've condensed thousands of hours of research into a fraction of that. I cover things like how to overcome limiting beliefs and common myths about job transition.

I've included almost every type of common job in the major industries that hire physicians, including biopharma, hospital management, home-based jobs, locum tenants, medical writing, consulting, and even more talk. I've got information there about how to convert your CV to a resume, how to prepare for your interviews, common mistakes to avoid, which, many of us have coaches and consultants have recognized and a lot of specific details about landing a job as a hospital CMO and as a medical science liaison. And new content is being added all the time.

So let's see. I think I'll walk you through this next part by going live into the site. Let me share my screen and we're going to go right from the very beginning about how to sign up here or how to find it. I'm going to go into the site as though I'm not a member yet, just to show you what that looks like. I'm going to go nonclinicalcareeracademy.com. So if you've never been on this site and you're not a member, this is what comes up when you go to nonclinicalcareeracademy.com.

And you'll see that there's all these images for either courses, bundles of courses, lectures, and so forth. Let me then kind of go through, I guess I don't really need to show you how to sign in at this point, but let me just talk about what's in there. And I'll try to explain everything for those that are listening to the podcast.

Well, at the top are something that are not individual courses. At the top left is something called Nonclinical Career Academy Member Club. I call it a member club because it's a membership, it's ongoing, and it's almost like being part of, let's say, a club, a business club, a golf club, something like that.

And you join based on a monthly fee or a one-time fee for lifetime access, and you get access to everything that's in here. Now, what I did too is as I was making courses, the first major course that I put together, some of these are lectures, but there's something called Build a Rewarding, Lucrative Career as a Medical Science Liaison. That's been in there for a long time.

It's six lectures plus an introduction and a summary that walks you through all the steps you need to go through to become a medical science liaison. I've interviewed at least, eight MSLs. I know other MSLs who I've not interviewed. And so I have a lot of information on that. So that was one of my first ones, and it's listed separately. You can purchase that separately because I have a background as a physician executive in the hospital setting as a CMO for 15 years.

I have a lot of individual courses in here that pertain to becoming a CMO. So let's see, Essential Skills and the Chief Medical Officer. And there is one in whether you need a business degree to land a NonClinical Career. And then there's also one on a Quick Guide to a Hospital Executive that gives you the 12-month roadmap.

Anyway, at the top is where you find these bundles, these so-called bundles. So it says Hospital Management Career Bundle. There are 11 courses in there, and those are all available for access at any time on your own schedule for one fee. Then the Introduction to the World of Nonclinical careers is also up here. And it has eight courses that have mostly introductory courses that cover a wide variety of home-based jobs, options for NonClinical Career, so forth and so on.

And then there's the Member Club, which is really the most comprehensive and really the best value because you get access to everything forever for one lifetime membership. So now if you do want to do the membership, then you click on the top left here, and that will bring you to some information about the Member Club itself, which does go in a lot more detail about everything that is included. And so there's a lot of scrolling here.

I'm sorry, I'm going through this, but it gives you the information. And now at the bottom, it does again go through all of those courses that are included in the Member Club. And again, it shows that when you go to enroll, you have an option of the monthly membership.

And this price is currently accurate at $57 per month, but it does change from time to time. And then the one-time purchase price up here. If I log in here real quickly, I'll just show you what a course looks like inside. So when you go in, now it'll say here that the Academy, the Member Club has four courses. These are not actually courses. These are designed to help you navigate through the Member Club, which has the 28 courses and lectures I mentioned earlier.

And so what that does is it kind of gives you some introduction, and then it gets into what to expect. And then there's also a suggested learning path. And I go through that actually in a video. And then when we're done with that, we can get a disclaimer and continue back. And then you will see that on the left-hand side here that the bundle, the included courses are on the left panel. And if you click that, it brings you to that entire list of available resources.

And then you pick and choose. Although again, depending on what your interests are, then you can go and they're all accessible. It will keep track of your progress. So let's say I wanted to look at the best resources for finding a NonClinical Career. I might click on that. You'll see that there's an introduction, kind of gets you oriented to this course. Again, most of these are me on video. And then on this one, we go through an actual presentation. And it keeps track on what you've done so that you can always come and go.

A lot of the courses do have additional resources, things you can download, sometimes podcast episodes. In this particular one, because we're talking about a lot of resources that it actually lists the resources that I talk about, and then you can link to each of those. So there's thousands and thousands of hours worth of information here. I'm not saying there's thousands and thousands of hours of video, but there are hundreds of hours of video, plus all the information that I add to each resource that also includes additional resources that you can access if it's of value to you. I think I will close at that point and stop sharing my screen. As I mentioned earlier, new content is added fairly frequently.

And I'm doing the weekly Q&A, which adds more content every week. Sometimes I skip a week if I'm off out of town or something. Again, if this interests you, you want to learn more about it, go to nonclinicalcareeracademy.com. Look at the complete list of options. Try a single course if you like. Try a bundle for a broad overview of nonclinical careers or a deep dive in the hospital CMO courses.

There's a complete six-course or six-lecture course on becoming an MSL. And the best value is to either get the monthly membership or the lifetime membership, and you can access everything for as long as you would like. If you do the lifetime and use RELAUNCH2024, you'll have lifetime access and you'll get a significant discount. That's RELAUNCH2024 as the coupon code.

That's it for today's presentation. Everything I've created over the years has been designed the best way that I can to help you find fulfillment in your career as a physician. The podcast, the academy, the summits, the website are all designed to meet your needs. Much of it is free and some requires payment to help keep me doing what I'm doing. But it's still small enough that you can always contact me directly if you have a question or you notice a mistake or you'd like to request a particular topic or guest or course you'd like created.

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Many of the links that I refer you to are affiliate links. That means I receive a payment from the seller if you purchase the affiliate item using my link. Doing so does not affect the price you are charged. I only promote high-quality products and services that I believe will be useful to you. As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.

The opinions expressed here are mine and my guest’s. While the information provided on the podcast is true and accurate to the best of my knowledge, there is no express or implied guarantee that using the methods discussed here will lead to success in your career, life, or business.

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Discover Your First Nonclinical Job Even If You Don’t Know Where to Start – 200 https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/discover-your-first-nonclinical-job/ https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/discover-your-first-nonclinical-job/#comments Tue, 15 Jun 2021 10:00:43 +0000 https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/?p=7823 Here Is the “Readers Digest” Version In honor of my 200th episode, I want to tell you how to discover your first nonclinical job. But first, I will play a recent audio review from one of my listeners. Then the rest of oday's episode is an abbreviated version of the webinar I presented [...]

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Here Is the “Readers Digest” Version

In honor of my 200th episode, I want to tell you how to discover your first nonclinical job. But first, I will play a recent audio review from one of my listeners.

Then the rest of oday's episode is an abbreviated version of the webinar I presented last week.

I want to remind you that the Nonclinical Career Academy Membership Program has just re-opened. It had been closed to new members for six months. There are more than 20 courses for physicians looking to shift to a nonclinical career. To learn more go to nonclinicalphysicians.com/joinnca.


Our Sponsor

We're proud to have the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA Program, offered by the Haslam College of Business, as the sponsor of this podcast.

The UT PEMBA is the longest-running, and most highly respected physician-only MBA in the country. It has over 700 graduates. And, the program only takes one year to complete. 

By joining the UT Physician Executive MBA, you will develop the business and management skills you need to find a career that you love. To find out more, contact Dr. Kate Atchley’s office at (865) 974-6526 or go to nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.


Discover Your First Nonclinical Job

In this discussion, I describe the three steps that must be followed when pursuing a nonclinical career.

Step One 

This step requires that mindset issues be addressed. These are fears and faulty beliefs that keep us from moving toward our goal of a new career. I spend a few minutes explaining why they can lead to an “upper limit problem,” and how to overcome them.

One of the biggest myths is that we don't have transferable skills. In reality, we have most of the skills needed to land almost any nonclinical position. In some cases, we need a little training in management and leadership that we can learn very quickly.

Step Two

In this step, we must discover which jobs are suited to physicians. We typically have very little exposure to the industries that employ doctors or the hundreds of specific jobs that require a medical background. During this episode, I briefly describe 15 of the most popular nonclinical careers for physicians.

Step Three

In this final step, we must put together a plan in which we…

  • select our preferred position,
  • engage a mentor or two,
  • learn as much about it as we can,
  • join pertinent professional organizations,
  • prepare a complete LinkedIn profile,
  • prepare a cover letter and resumé,
  • find appropriate job listings,
  • apply to a job that matches our goals, and
  • ace our interview.

More About the Nonclinical Career Academy Membership Program

The NCA Membership Program will enable you to complete each of the above steps and discover your first nonclinical job. It is open for enrollment for only 3 days following the release of this episode. To learn more about the Membership Program go to nonclinicalphysicians.com/joinnca.

As the host of the Academy Membership Program, it is my promise to do all that I can to help you land a satisfying nonclinical or nontraditional job. That job will enable you to leave assembly-line, soul-crushing medical practice and apply your background to helping patients in a new way.

I have already dedicated hundreds of hours developing 22 courses that bring you the knowledge I’ve garnered over the past 20 years. And I will continue to add new lessons to assist you in your career journey. The Program also includes Masterclasses with Drs. Mike Woo-Ming, Andrew Wilner, and Maiysha Clairborne, and resumé expert Charlotte Weeks.

So, check it out at nonclinicalphysicians.com/joinnca.

Summary

There is a straightforward strategy for pursuing a new career. In today's podcast episode, we walk through the three major steps of that strategy.  

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Transcription - Discover Your First Nonclinical Job

Even If You Don't Know Where to Start

John: All right, I think we're ready to start our presentation. This is "Discover Your First Nonclinical Job Even If You Don't Know Where to Start". My name is John Jurica. Let me tell you a little bit about my story. Most of you know who I am. I'm a podcaster obviously. And I also put together a nonclinical career academy membership site for people to learn about nonclinical careers.

But I'm a family physician. And early in my career, after joining my two partners as fresh out of residency, I started doing nonclinical jobs. I was looking to moonlight and rather than do more clinical things, which I did a little bit of, I started to work in different nonclinical roles. So, I was a physician advisor for utilization management. And then I was working in a family planning clinic clinically, and then I became medical director for that.

Then I received an MPH. Well, I took the courses to get my MPH and I became the medical director for an occupational medicine clinic. And from there eventually, I moved into leadership roles at a hospital as a VPMA, and then chief medical officer.

So, I've done a lot of nonclinical activities. And when I got tired of doing that after about 15 years as a senior executive at the hospital, I decided to open an urgent care center with some other investors. And now I'm the medical director and part-owner of the clinics. There are now two clinics, but I'm only working clinically one day a week, although I'm still working as a medical director. So, in the meantime, I started this podcast and I started interviewing physicians and coaches so that I could learn how to move into nonclinical careers other than the ones that I have already done. So, I have a lot of firsthand experience and then a lot of secondhand experience through interviews and so forth.

So that's my story. And I'm here to tell you what I've determined is really a process for moving from really a non-satisfying clinical career with burnout and the risk of liability and lawsuits and all the paperwork and the owner of CMRs and so forth, and really take everything that you've learned clinically in your experience, your training, and then move into a nonclinical role, but still applying that and usually helping out lots of patients in the process. By the way, that picture was from about 15, 20 years ago. So that does not meet today. I've got a lot of gray hair these days, but I guess that only means I'm seasoned at what I'm doing.

All right. So first I wanted to tell you the secret that I learned about career transition over the period of time that I've been studying it. And really the main secret is that we have a lot of transferable skills. And the reason this is important to talk about is that it's very common for physicians to feel and to even express that all we know, all they know is medicine.

And so how can we move into some other career? It feels like we've really niched down, right? We started undergrad. We do a very broad generalized education usually. A lot of us are in liberal arts and sciences, but even if we're in some other college within a university, yeah, there's a lot of different courses. It's not very specific. And we usually have to go to graduate school or medical school or something to get more specified.

And we kind of then niche down into medicine, of course. And so that kind of separates us from other people. And I'm not saying in a necessarily supercilious way or we're any better, just narrows it down. And then as you go into your specialties, you might do a general specialty like internal medicine or family medicine, but you might go into neurology or surgery and then a subspecialty of surgery.

So, it seems like we're so "niched down" that all we know is we've spent 13, 14, 15 years learning how on earth could we just shift to something completely different, particularly something that involves management or finances or leadership or something like that.

But I think we look at it the wrong way when we do that. So, I like to use this thought experiment that you're, let's say, the last of a small group of human beings who are going to be shipwrecked or who are on the earth in some apocalyptic story. And there's a number of people in that group. There are teachers and politicians, attorneys, a judge, there might be a nurse, that could be someone who works hard labor type of job, a plumber and then there might be an engineer and a physician.

And as I thought about this kind of thinking process, like who would I want to be stranded with if I only could pick one or two partners? Well, it would be the engineer and the doctor basically. The engineer knows a lot about physical things and building things and what's safe and what's not safe, but the physician knows a lot of other things, which I'm going to talk about in a minute. And believe me, you'd want to have a physician on that team, not just because of your own chances of being injured or becoming sick, but for a lot of reasons.

So, let's go through this. Here are some of the things that physicians pretty much across the board understand and know. They have a background in physiology, anatomy, biochemistry, pharmacology, statistics, epidemiology, and a lot more. You've got these so-called soft skills. They're not really scientific, but this commitment to lifelong learning, the teaching, the presenting, the communicating, working in teams, and a whole lot more.

And then there's a personality trait. Physicians are very reliable and accountable. They have a lot of perseverance and grit, dedication. Things that employers are really looking for. And then you've got in my estimate, 70% to 80% of pretty much any nonclinical job requirements that you might need. And really the proof is almost in the pudding. If you're looking for a nonclinical job, a large percent of them fall into one of these categories and the bottom here on this slide, and it's not like this description defines exactly what the role is. But within every industry, there are physician advisors, medical directors, and chief medical officers, chief medical information officers.

But you'll notice the reason that term "physician" is in there or "medical" is in there is because the only person that can fill that role is a physician, an MD, a DO, and MBBS, whatever the equivalent is, somebody with at least that four-to-six-year background in medical school. And then oftentimes they also need to have some clinical experience in residency training and possibly board certification, but not always.

So, to think that we're not suitable for a number of these roles, I think we need to put that aside. Now, this is one of those self-limiting beliefs. And I'm going to talk more about that in a minute when I get into what are the three major areas that we need to focus on when thinking about making a pivot from clinical to a nonclinical career.

So, here are the three components that I tend to teach my mentees, my coaches, my students, and my colleagues really. One is we've got to overcome some limiting beliefs. I call them self-limiting beliefs, usually.

Next, you have to find out about the specific jobs in the most popular industries to choose from. So, I would ask you right now, can you name three popular fairly lucrative nonclinical jobs that physicians would be able to move into? I think probably most of you can, but if you can't, well, I'm going to go through about 20 of them in about two minutes. Because this is going to be maybe something to think about later, as a result just of this episode, this presentation. Have you internalized some of the things I'm telling you, by the end of this, you should be able to name at least three, if not more, nonclinical careers that are very common, very popular.

But the final part of this, maybe three-legged stool besides knowing what you're suited for and what's available, getting over your self-limiting beliefs, we've also got to understand the tactics that most job transitions require when you're moving from a clinical to a nonclinical. And some of them are very specific to that sort of thing. The others, there are general principles and changing careers, whoever you are, whatever you're doing, but there are some that are unique to physicians.

And these are the three big areas that I talk about. And we'll go into these in some detail. So, I'm basically trying to give you in one fell swoop, sort of the overarching look at how one makes the change from clinical to nonclinical.

And the thing is, this method or this approach really applies to whether you are board-certified or not. it applies to pretty much any specialty background. Now, there are certain specialties that either would tend to include you or exclude you from certain careers, but in general, any specialty can do almost any nonclinical career with a little bit of preparation.

And then whether you've pursued additional certification or an advanced degree, you can get most of these jobs without that. But at times it's beneficial to get the additional certification or degrees. But that's more or less to be more competitive. It's not necessarily something that is always required or even often required.

So, when you're done and when you do this right, when you go through the process I'm talking about today, you can understand why you're already qualified. You're going to realize that these nonclinical careers are the next logical step in your professional growth. So that's another myth or another belief that we have to get over. And the belief that we're stepping back or that the pinnacle of our career is being a physician. Well, we're always going to be a physician, but we actually can step up and forward, not down or back. We're moving to the next phase of our career like a lot of people do. If an attorney is working as a defense attorney for 20 years and then becomes a judge or a justice, they don't look at that as a step back. Well, I'm abandoning my career as an attorney. No, that's the next step forward. Well, there are lots of nonclinical careers that in that situation are exactly the same. So, as we move forward, this is actually a step up. And I've been doing nonclinical careers for a long time. I'm still called a doctor and I'm still entitled to that because most of the things that I've done, if not all of them, have helped patients, but in a different way.

So, let's move forward here. Let's go through some of these steps in more detail and dig a little bit deeper and we'll go from there. The whole step one is the whole mindset thing. And there are many people who are half-ready to start a new career. There is something called the upper limit problem that I think Gay Hendricks wrote about in a book in which you seem to be making progress, but then something holds you back. You hit a limit and you can't go beyond that. And what it turns out, is often what are these self-limiting beliefs that are related back to something that happened in your childhood and you may or may not actually remember what happened. You may not even be aware that you have this belief, but at an unconscious level, it keeps you from earning more money. It keeps you from moving to a new job. So, this is very common.

Now, some of the fears that I see that come out are fears of letting your family down. There are some cultures in particular, or in some families, where being a physician or being an attorney, being a professional at that level, those are the only options. And if you don't do that, and if you deviate from that or move beyond that, they do see it as stepping back. There's a fear of looking bad. This is just a common human self-limiting belief that if you do something else., you're going to look bad. You might fail.

Obviously, we can fail, but we need to look at failure in a different way. As physicians, we're not used to failing, we are used to making that next step, that next step, that next step, passing each test, doing well. When I applied to medical school, I was rejected the first time. So, I understood what that failure was, but I just overcame that, kept working, studying, took some additional classes, retook the MCATs, moved on, and was accepted.

But that doesn't happen to most people. They have a string of successes from grammar school, high school, get into college, get into medical school, get into residency, and so forth. And then there's that fear of "I'm not good enough" and the fear of financial ruin. Now, many of you are making good money if you're full-time working in your intended career after residency and passing your boards and so forth, and you may have loans out there and a lot of expenses and you need to make a lot of money. But remember, it's at the expense if you're listening to this of near burnout, no fulfillment, the feeling like you're just churning patients. And so, we need to rethink how we look at that.

But the bottom line is that a lot of these things relate back to this statement that you don't have the necessary skills or expertise to do anything else that we started with. If you feel that way, then you're going to feel as though you're looking bad. You're not really doing the right thing. You're going to feel that you're going to fail because you don't have the necessary skills. You're going to feel that you're not good enough, or that you're not going to make enough money because you're not going to get that next job.

So, two things on this. The first one, the fear of letting people down, I would say, have a conversation with your loved ones and say I'm miserable. I really don't like what I'm doing for a variety of reasons. I've been burned out. I've been depressed. Whatever it is, unfulfilled, 99.9% of the time, your loved ones are going to say, "Sweetheart, do what is best for you. And if you can do it using what you've learned, fine". But do something that helps you, or allows you to work within your zone of genius and help people and not be stuck in some job that you hate. Nobody should do that. So, I think you'll find that your family will support you.

And then as far as the other things, the financial. You might have a temporary reduction. So, you've got to plan ahead. You shouldn't just stop working and then start looking for a job. A lot of these things, you can overlap very easily. Don't do anything foolish, but at the same time, you are a physician. They're not going to be able to pay a physician the salary of someone else that does not have that medical degree and doesn't have that background and experience. It might be a little less, but you're going to be working less hours. You are going to have no call. You're not going to be liable for a lawsuit. You're going to have so many other upsides that even if there's a small downside financially, it's really a good trade-off.

And then ultimately, usually you're going to get increases in pay whether it's normally through your employment and raises every year, or if you're a hospital administrator, something like that, you're going to have deferred comp and all kinds of things coming in. And really there's a lot of jobs that pay more than you are paid as a physician unless you're just really super hard-working, extremely busy, specialty surgeon, or interventional cardiologist or something like that.

All right. So that's step one. And obviously, I'm not going to get you through that step in just five minutes, but I think you have to try to think about what we've talked about and do some introspection and see if these things make sense to you.

Now, step two is a lot of people who move towards a job change. They're like, "Well, what do I do?" It's one of the most common comments I get in the Facebook group where I'm a moderator, the Physician Nonclinical Career Hunters Facebook group. And it's like, I don't know what to do. And the other members of the group when the new member says that they find it a little bit ironic because they've been exposed through the group to dozens and dozens of different jobs, different industries. And it's really a typical, and it's expected question, and that's why step two is to find out what's out there, what's available.

Do you have to find out every single job that any physician has ever done in any industry? No, but you should be exposed to at least 20 or 30 different jobs in 5 or 10 different industries so you can see what meshes with your personality and so forth.

So, I'm going to go through and list some of the jobs that I've talked about in the past that I hear about that I study and that I present, for example, in my Nonclinical Career Academy membership site. So, these are very common. Utilization management, probably the number one job in the Facebook group. That can be done at an insurance company, but it also can be done in the hospital setting. In fact, that's where it grew out of. You can be a hospital medical director for quality improvement, for CDI, which also has medical advisors, for utilization management, for informatics, not to mention all of the service lines where you can be a medical director.

And then you can move up to a chief medical officer, chief quality officer, chief medical information officer. And those are very high-paying jobs, a lot of responsibility, and a lot of impact on patients at the hospital where you're working. There are at least six types of medical writers, and you can do those jobs either as a freelancer or as an employee. So, there are 12 different iterations right there.

And then there's another medical writing job called medical communications, which I kind of carve-out usually because it's working for an ad agency to help pharmaceutical companies get the word out, get the word out on their new medications and existing medications and expansion of the applications of their medicines. And so, if you think about that, this is one of the overlaps between medical writing and the pharma industry, which I'll talk about in a minute.

Another one that's come up recently. I just put it in here. It's not the most common but accrediting organizations need physicians. Oftentimes they need physicians to be surveyors where they can get paid to do that. That's usually part-time, or they can be management in those companies. The ACCME, the accreditation council for CME. The leader of that has always been a physician. The ACGME, I believe, has always been led by a physician and they have surveyors. There are all kinds. The Joint Commission has a surveyor. There are jobs for physicians there because they know medicine.

And so when they're dealing with physicians in these institutions that they're serving, they have physicians that can speak their language and they get a little more respect when they're teaching them or trying to show them how they should be doing something when they've had an issue.

Insurance medicine is a big one. There are not as many jobs there, but there are definitely medical directors and there is a society of physicians for insurance medicine. So, it's definitely a bona fide and very popular job and physicians don't leave that job because it's very intellectually stimulating. And yet, it's very reasonable in terms of the lifestyle.

You got medical consulting. Now, when I usually talk about this, I'm talking about working for a big healthcare or management company like McKinsey or Accenture or BCG or Huron, or there are probably at least 15 of them. And there's lots and lots of jobs, but you could also be a freelance consultant yourself as a consultant I guess I should say, and you can teach other physicians about how to run their practice or how to do the finances or how to do branding for their practice. I've interviewed physicians doing all of those things.

Then in pharma, you've got medical directors, basically, in the medical affairs division, you've got medical science liaisons, or an MSL, which is a very popular position. That's open to physicians who have not gone through residency. Medical monitor. Oh, by the way, these jobs are also open to physicians who do have residency like the medical science liaison, the medical monitor, but they will take both depending on your background, for sure. Medical safety or pharmacovigilance, they need physicians and pharma for that.

Then we'll shift gears totally to expert witnesses, which is usually a part-time job. And you can cut your practice in half, see patients 20 hours a week and do medical expert witness job type work, chart reviews, and depositions 10 hours a week, and make a much higher total salary than you would just by practicing alone in most specialties.

There's a lot of home-based careers. There are some of these overlaps like the UM and even the CDI consulting, they can be done from home because of EMRs and so forth. But there are others, there are independent review organizations that you can do reviews offline or online with different disability companies and workers comp. And you can even go to state medical societies and do quality reviews on charts. So, it's a lot of home-based careers and we call them remote control careers sometimes.

And then physician coaching is a huge one. There are probably 10 or 12 different types of coaching from life coaching to career coaching and business coaching. But with that, you get to be like a physician in terms of what you're doing and how you're helping people, but there's almost no liability. There's no call. It's a much better lifestyle.

So, you need to review and get exposed to what's out there. The pros and cons of each. Does it involve travel? Does it involve other things that would not fit with your lifestyle? I have an example here of someone that followed my process. He was not residency trained. He came to this country as a foreign medical graduate. He tried to get into residency and he couldn't.

If you look at the bottom and work your way up, this is just a LinkedIn profile. And you can see that he was working as a medical assistant, but he did have the medical background for medical school. And then he became a scribe. And then he began working as a medical case manager, almost like a nurse and utilization review specialist, but he was in the hospital setting. He was exposed. He was networking. He was getting mentored by physicians who would help advise him and how he might move into something more lucrative and have more responsibility. And he was able after taking a short course on ICD-10 to get a job as a clinical documentation specialist, as a physician. So, he was there on sort of a level playing field with other physician CDI specialists and he carried forth on that. He was working for a larger company remotely, and he really enjoyed it.

You have to overcome that knowledge gap about available opportunities. So, what are the most popular industries? What positions exist in those? And then what are their characteristics? As I said a minute ago, are they remote? Are they face to face? Are they in an employed situation? Are they freelance? Are they 09:00 to 05:00 or are they flexible? So, which job fits you best? As you become aware of more jobs, you have a bigger choice of those that will fit with you.

And then the next step, of course, is where do you find those jobs and how do you find those jobs? So, if you do this right, you're going to start with this big overview. You're going to understand the differences. You're going to see if they align with your preferences as noted on this slide. And you can begin to identify how prepared you are and what additional education certification or degree you might need if any.

And another physician that was an OB, who really was unhappy and she looked around and she found through her studies that she liked to write. She knew that, and she took a course to help her set up her LLC for her freelance writing. And she did that for several years, developed relationships. She was doing that while she was working as pretty much a full-time laborist.

And then at one point after really making some good money on the side as a medical writer, she was contacted through LinkedIn about a job for a contract research organization CRO, which usually is providing support to pharmaceutical companies and they needed a technical writer.

And although she hadn't been a technical writer, she was definitely a good writer and she applied for the job and she got it very quickly and that worked out great and she stopped seeing patients clinically. So that's just another example. And it's an example of the kind of thing that you can do if you apply yourself and follow the principles that I'm talking about today.

Now, step three is, I could say to come up with a plan, but really the plan has so many little steps in it that I'll mention here in a second. But basically, some of the steps here, and I'll go back. This just shows you what a plan could look like. This would be a one-year plan that would probably work out pretty well.

The beginning is addressing the self-limiting beliefs, starting to look at job descriptions, really not so much because you want to apply, but because you just want to understand what they list in there, what's critically important for each type of job you might be choosing or thinking about choosing.

Early on, you should get a mentor. You should get a full LinkedIn profile set up and so forth. I'll go through this in the next slide. But each month or two, you can do additional steps in this process. Some of these are ongoing. Some of these you only do as you get towards the end of the process. So, at some point, you're going to have to put together a resume and a cover letter. You're going to have to make that very personal. You are going to have to switch it from a CV to a resume. And there's a big difference between the two. And then you're going to have to really narrow it down to where you're going to look, how you're going to send those materials in, and how to prepare for, let's say, a telephone or a video call, how to prepare for your interview.

So, I've listed these here. In the meantime, you will join professional organizations if there are any because they can help you. They can add more evidence and different courses and information about getting a job. Some of them have job boards. As I mentioned, you're going to complete your LinkedIn profile. You're going to network constantly. And you're going to network in a way that is not like staying after a meeting and having a drink in a conference room and just small talk and hand out your cards. No, you're going to network with people you already know, try and find contacts that they'd have other contacts in the industry you're looking for.

And then you need to learn the jargon. And then if you have to, you can say, well, maybe I need some additional courses or certifications or degrees. But again, I advise people that it's okay to take some additional courses, but if I were you and you're going to look for a degree, I'd probably start work on a degree while you're looking at that job. And with any luck, you can land the job while you're still in the process of getting the degree, and then maybe you can get your employer to help pay for it. So, there's a whole strategy there.

And like I said, the cover letter, the resume, and how to prepare for your interviews, and how to do research on the organization that you're interviewing with is a big deal as well. So, this is a big step. Step three has a lot of moving parts in it, but there's a science between each of them and there are experts that can be accessed. So, you put it all together and you look at the steps. You may already have a perfect LinkedIn profile, but maybe your resume needs some improvement. There are some things we can do together to do that. Or maybe you hire someone to look at your resume. It's not that expensive. And if you use someone who knows how to design a resume for this kind of job, it's probably worth it. And you probably want to write down some kind of a visual map of your plan. You might call it a Gantt chart or some process where you say, "Here's what I'm going to get done in week one, week two, month one, month two, month three, and so forth. So, there is a science to it.

Anyway, when you do it right you can make your career shift, get away from burnout, less stress, wake up in the morning, looking forward to work instead of dreading it, and you'll have the skills necessary if you listen to what I'm saying today, or learn more at the membership site that I'm going to talk about so that you can do this over and over again, that slide that I showed here actually can be reiterated each time. You can do it for the first job, the second job, the third job, it gets a little easier each time. Your advancement usually goes a little quicker when you're willing to make the change to a new job, but there are still great opportunities within organizations to move up as well.

So, I have a mentee, someone that I mentored and coached, and it was actually a friend of mine as well. We worked at the same organization. And he had reached the end of his career. I mean, he could have continued to work as a cardiothoracic surgeon, but he saw the writing on the wall. The number of open-heart surgeries was declining as the cardiologist became more and more aggressive in what they could do. A transcutaneous I guess is how I would put it. And he was a good leader and he ran some good programs and during the last two years of his work at the hospital as a surgeon, he did most of his online MBA, a very well-respected one.

And he was able to get a position as a physician advisor. I think it was a lot more than a physician advisor in the sense that he was doing not only helping with UM but quality improvement. And he was involved in root cause analysis. He had learned a lot about quality improvement in his role as the medical director for the cardiac program. So again, he just applied the same principles. He didn't have to do a lot of interviews. He just approached one of the hospitals they had privileges at, and he was able to move right into that position once he decided to stop working clinically, and he's still helping people provide in his hospital to provide really good patient care. So, it can be done. He has the know-how and confidence to apply to his next position if he decides to move on.

And it should be pretty obvious now that there's a series of logical steps that are best done in a deliberate way if you want to move forward from your clinical till your nonclinical. You should never just quit a job without a plan. Some people have done that successfully, but most of those have had big nest eggs that can tie them over. You really want to do small pivots. You want to do pilots. You want to do things part-time, do things on the side if you can. In the hospital setting, you can volunteer for things. And you do learn management by being the chair of a committee or two, and then working on the board, if you have an opportunity for that. So, there are ways to do it that I teach my students.

So, to reiterate, we're going to overcome the self-limiting beliefs and develop confidence in your transferable skills, which you have many of. You are going to identify some potential careers that will build on your education and training. Then you're going to become an expert at the tactics. You need to make that shift from using a mentor and networking to preparing your resume and acing your interview.

So, the other thing that's important here. And so, we're getting to the end of this part of it. And it's just to say that not wasting your time chasing useless information. This is one of the things that's a benefit of having a mentor or a coach sometimes, or a teacher or whatever you want to call that person. It's just to avoid the landmines, avoid the big mistakes that slow your progress.

And so, that is what I wanted to share with you. And especially in honor of my 200 episodes, I've kind of boiled down a lot of what I've learned in the last 30 minutes, just to give you a broad overview. And this is the path to a new fulfilling career that I want you to understand. And if you need help with that, then you should consider joining the Nonclinical Career Academy membership program. It just reopened recently. And so, if you'll indulge me for just a minute or two longer, let me tell you more about it.

So, think about what it would be like if you could find the career that you love, overcome burnout and experience joy and balance in your life and avoid another frivolous lawsuit. And feel like you're still in a career based on your medical knowledge and training. And that's why I developed the Nonclinical Career Academy so that I can help you to move in that direction quickly and conveniently.

The NCA membership program started as 12 courses back almost two years ago. Now with 22 in 7 major categories. Introductory, getting started, the important tactics. And then there are some really specific things about hospital management medical science liaison. There's a six-lesson course there that could pretty much get you fully into a position to interview and land your first job, locum tenens, and consulting.

And I set it up as a membership because then there's unlimited access to all the courses at whatever time you are available to do it. I could sell the courses individually, but I continue to add courses every couple of months or so. And a lot of that's based on the feedback I get. So, if this sounds like something that is interesting to you, then definitely to nonclinicalphysicians.com/joinnca and just look around. That's just a homepage where you can look and see there are a lot more details about it. And with the program, you can do these things. You can avoid burnout, you can move on, eliminate your lawsuits and be happy, basically, using your medical knowledge and experience.

The program does have a seven-day money-back guarantee. So, you can go in there and look around and see if it's really what you think will help you on your journey. And I've had many members who have been in it for over a year. But you can get in there and get three, four or five months under your belt, find that next career and move on. And that'll be a lot less expensive than buying a $3,000 or $4,000 or $5,000 course with this much content in it. And you only have to use the parts that you want to use and you'll have access for as long as you're a member.

The membership site closes on the 18th, Friday, the 18th of June. To learn more, just go to nonclinicalphysicians.com/joinnca. Check it out. And if it's something that you think is going to be helpful, sign up, look it over. If you don't like it, you can withdraw. Otherwise, start going through it. And let's get you on course to get your first nonclinical or non-traditional job and have you moved up to that next phase of your nonclinical professional life.

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Interview with Dr. Errin Weisman

In this episode of the PNC podcast, Dr. Errin Weisman describes how she went “from Burnout to Badass.” And she explains how she now mixes her entrepreneurial interests with serving her podcast listeners and taking care of patients.

Errin is a life coach, podcaster, and all-around badass doctor mom in southwestern Indiana. Besides being sassy, she enjoys getting mud on her shoes, teaching her children to catch tadpoles, and reading a great fantasy novel. Hear her on the Doctor Me First podcast. Or hang with her on Instagram for laughs and encouragement.

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What Else Can I Do?

Errin was working a typical patient care job when she realized she couldn't do that for the next 30 years. She thought it was supposed to get better over time, but it didn't. She hired a life coach. And the more coaching she received, the more clarity she had about her desires, and what could bring her fulfillment. 

She developed a vision of herself as a coach. And she began charting her path from burnout to badass.

She wanted to provide medical care in a way that brought more freedom. So, she started doing telemedicine. It was wonderful. She found that telemedicine brings the flexibility she needs while delivering medical care.

Subsequently, Errin searched for other outlets for her medical skills. She discovered correctional medicine. She enjoyed “comforting the afflicted and afflicting the comfortable.” And that position allowed her to be an advocate for system change. Along the way, she charted her path from burnout to badass.

Podcasting Done Differently

She decided to produce a podcast. She wanted it to be spontaneous and uplifting. She'll interview anyone who can bring a message of value to her audience (mostly women). On her show, she follows her heart and addresses topics of interest to her audience. And she selects guests with minimal screening.

“I think this goes back to my medicine training… you just walk in the room and you don't know what you're going to get. It could be a splinter in a toe. Or it could be a total train wreck with a purple foot. You just walk in and you take what you get with what you have.”

Because of the podcast, she discovered other women who were providing weight loss coaching, parenting coaching, career coaching, and more. And she felt a desire to collaborate with them. It started with a Zoom call, and what began as a “coaching circle” became the Physician Coaching Alliance. The PCA now brings physician coaches together, while serving as a resource for clients searching for a coach.

Burnout to BadAss

Erinn has been working on creating a resource for struggling physicians. It incorporates what she has learned through her career journey, coaching education, and experiences helping physicians.

It's helping find you where you're at. If you're feeling burned out, if you're feeling stuck, if you're feeling just disillusioned with medicine, it's an online course with weekly meetings with me. To move you from a place of burnout to total “badassery.”

Erinn believes that at our core, we all are badasses. And somewhere along the way, we let that become vanilla. Hence, she wants you to bring your spice, your spunk, and really work through that when working with her.

She advises that if you don't like colorful language, then she's not the coach for you. But otherwise, she says come hang out with her.

Summary

In the episode, Errin explains that once you can love, accept, and show compassion to yourself, then you're going to be able to do that for others. She demonstrates that there is no one right way to be a doctor.

Near the end of our conversation, Errin discussed being a panelist on Dr. Michelle Mudge-Riley's NEXT Nonclinical Conference Series. She will be telling her story and speaking about coaching. And going from burnout to badass. The first of the series starts on July 10, 2020, with additional programs in September and November.

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The Clinicians Career Cooperative Is Live

This is the ONLINE MARKETPLACE OF IDEAS for nonclinical, and unconventional clinical, jobs and side gigs. We have started with some of the most influential names in career transition to mentor members in the Cooperative, including:

  • Maiysha Clairborne
  • Michelle Mudge-Riley
  • Tom Davis
  • Marjorie Stiegler
  • Phil Boucher
  • Mike Woo-Ming
  • Jarret Patton
  • Jill Wener
  • Christopher Loo
  • Lisa Jenks
  • Mandy Armitage
  • Brent Lacey

There is an automatic 7-day Free Trial. So, this is a no-risk opportunity to connect with experts and begin your career transition today.

To check it out, head to the Clinicians Career Cooperative.

Follow 4 Easy Steps:

After clicking the link and heading to the Cooperative and watching the Welcome Video…

  1. click the Teal Colored JOIN NOW button, then,
  2. select the annual or monthly membership by clicking the Sign-Up Link, then
  3. add your registration information, and
  4. click REGISTER HERE to join the Cooperative.

It's that simple.

Imagine what it will be like 6 to 12 months from now to start a fulfilling career, and leave behind the headaches, long hours, and constant threat of a lawsuit. Joining the Cooperative is the first step on that journey!

So head over to the Clinicians Career Cooperative.


The Nonclinical Career Academy Membership Program recently added a new MasterClass!

I've created 16 courses and placed them all in an exclusive, low-cost membership program. The program provides an introduction to dozens of nontraditional careers, with in-depth lessons on several of them. It even includes my full MSL Course. There is a money-back guarantee, so there is no risk to signing up. And I'll add more courses each and every month, addressing:

  • Mike Woo-Ming's 4-Part Masterclass about freelance consulting.
  • Writing Masterclass with Charlotte Weeks.
  • Locum Tenens Masterclass  with Dr. Andrew Wilner
  • Nontraditional Careers: Cash-only Practice, Telemedicine
  • Hospital and Health System Jobs
  • Pharma Careers
  • Home-based jobs
  • Preparing for an interview, and using LinkedIn
  • And more…

Check out the home page for the Academy at nonclinicalphysicians.com/joinnca.


Thanks to our sponsor…

Thanks to the UT Physician Executive MBA program for sponsoring the show. It’s an outstanding, highly rated, MBA program designed for working physicians. It is just what you need to prepare for that fulfilling, well-paying career. You can find out more at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.

If you enjoyed today’s episode, share it on Twitter and Facebook, and leave a review on iTunes.


Podcast Editing & Production Services are provided by Oscar Hamilton


Disclaimers:

Many of the links that I refer you to, and that you’ll find in the show notes, are affiliate links. That means that I receive a payment from the seller if you purchase the affiliate item using my link. Doing so has no effect on the price you are charged. And I only promote products and services that I believe are of high quality and will be useful to you, that I have personally used or am very familiar with.

The opinions expressed here are mine and my guest’s. While the information provided on the podcast is true and accurate to the best of my knowledge, there is no express or implied guarantee that using the methods discussed here will lead to success in your career, life, or business.

The information presented on this blog and related podcast is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only. It should not be construed as medical, legal, tax, or emotional advice. If you take action on the information provided on the blog or podcast, it is at your own risk. Always consult an attorney, accountant, career counselor, or other professional before making any major decisions about your career. 

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Is the Cooperative or the Academy Best for Me? – 149 https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/best-for-me/ https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/best-for-me/#respond Tue, 30 Jun 2020 11:00:26 +0000 https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/?p=4886 Do You Prefer Mentoring or Online Courses? In this episode of the PNC podcast, I try to answer this question: Is the Clinicians Career Cooperative or the Nonclinical Career Academy best for me? I know this may sound like a 30-minute promotional spot, but I don't look at it that way. I've been creating new [...]

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Do You Prefer Mentoring or Online Courses?

In this episode of the PNC podcast, I try to answer this question: Is the Clinicians Career Cooperative or the Nonclinical Career Academy best for me?

I know this may sound like a 30-minute promotional spot, but I don't look at it that way. I've been creating new resources for “seeking physicians” since I started my podcast three years ago, and, honestly, it gets a little confusing at times. Partly it is because I had these opportunities and went ahead and did them, rather than wait until the perfect moment.

Our Sponsor

We're proud to have the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA Program, offered by the Haslam College of Business, as the sponsor of this podcast.

The UT PEMBA is the longest-running, and most highly respected physician-only MBA in the country, with over 650 graduates. And, unlike other programs, which typically run 1 – 1/2 to 2 years, this program only takes a year to complete. Recently, Economist Magazine ranked the business school #1 in the world for the Most Relevant Executive MBA.

While in the program, you'll participate in a company project, thereby contributing to your organization. As a result, the University of Tennessee PEMBA students bring exceptional value to their organizations.

Graduates have taken leadership positions at major healthcare organizations. And they've become entrepreneurs and business owners.

By joining the University of Tennessee physician executive MBA, you will develop the business and management skills needed to find a career that you really love. To find out more, contact Dr. Kate Atchley’s office by calling (865) 974-6526 or go to nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.


Is the Clinicians Career Cooperative or the Nonclinical Career Academy Best for Me?

Let’s get into a comparison of the Clinicians Career Cooperative and the Nonclinical Career Academy and answer the question: Which is best for me? When you're starting a new project, you're better off focusing intently on one at a time, and that's definitely what I recommend. But there was a need and I wanted to fill it. So, I didn't really see the point in postponing the Cooperative even though it was right on the heels of the Academy. 

First, Principles That I Believe

Before getting into the comparison, I want to explain what drives me to create these and other resources for you.

Physicians Are All Members of a Profession, Guild, or Family

I consider it more of a family. You could call it a guild. You can call it whatever you want, but we all have a shared experience. Unfortunately, some of the more recent experiences we've shared often include burnout, being taken advantage of, and being taken for granted. Since I feel we are family, I don't like seeing you suffer. I don't like seeing you wandering around trying to figure out what to do.

The other reason why I want to facilitate this process for you is that the jobs that most of you have often mean spending 50, 60, 70, or 80 hours a week working. And you don't have a lot of time to spend learning about nonclinical jobs.

We All Deserve a Career and a Life That Brings Us Joy and Fulfillment

You've spent years working hard to become a physician, delaying gratification, and sometimes taking on an enormous amount of debt. Some of you have put off buying a house or starting a family. And after entering your new career, you shouldn't be suffering.

Physicians Are Natural Leaders

I don't think you're a born leader. But I believe you're a natural leader. You're a leader because of your training. A lot of what we learned while in medical school and then in residency is how to lead, how to manage, and how to make important decisions. Hence, people look to us for leadership in almost any environment we find ourselves.

Given these beliefs, I created the Academy and partnered with Dr. Tom Davis to develop the Cooperative.

Is the CCC or the NCA Best for Me?

There a few similarities between these two resources. They both address career transition. They are both structured as a membership site. And they both allow for 24/7 access. But that is pretty much where the similarities end. Below is a table that lists the differences between the two programs.

cooperative versus academy best for me

 

Summary

When you're starting a new project, you're better off focusing intently on one at a time. That's definitely what I recommend. But I didn't really see the point in postponing the Cooperative since it was so sorely needed.

With today's comparison, I think you will better understand the features fo both of these programs. And you will be able to answer the question “which is best for me?”

Download This Episode:

Right Click Here and “Save As” to download this podcast episode to your computer.


The Clinicians Career Cooperative Is Live

This is the ONLINE MARKETPLACE OF IDEAS for nonclinical, and unconventional clinical, jobs and side gigs. We have started with some of the most influential names in clinical career transition to mentor members in the Cooperative, including:

  • Maiysha Clairborne
  • Michelle Mudge-Riley
  • Tom Davis
  • Marjorie Stiegler
  • Phil Boucher
  • Mike Woo-Ming
  • Jarret Patton
  • Jill Wener
  • Christopher Loo
  • Lisa Jenks
  • Mandy Armitage
  • Brent Lacey

There is an automatic 7-day Free Trial. So, this is a no-risk opportunity to connect with experts and begin your career transition today.

To check it out, head to the Clinicians Career Cooperative.

Follow 4 Easy Steps:

After clicking the link and heading to the Cooperative and watching the Welcome Video…

  1. click the Teal Colored JOIN NOW button, then,
  2. select the annual or monthly membership by clicking the Sign-Up Link, then
  3. add your registration information, and
  4. click REGISTER HERE to join the Cooperative.

It's that simple.

Imagine what it will be like 6 to 12 months from now to start a fulfilling career, and leave behind the headaches, long hours, and constant threat of a lawsuit. Joining the Cooperative is the first step on that journey!

So head over to the Clinicians Career Cooperative.


The Nonclinical Career Academy Membership Program recently added a new MasterClass!

I've created 16 courses and placed them all in an exclusive, low-cost membership program. The program provides an introduction to dozens of nontraditional careers, with in-depth lessons on several of them. It even includes my full MSL Course. There is a money-back guarantee, so there is no risk to signing up. And I'll add more courses each and every month, addressing:

  • Mike Woo-Ming's 4-Part Masterclass about freelance consulting.
  • Writing Masterclass with Charlotte Weeks.
  • Locum Tenens Masterclass  with Dr. Andrew Wilner
  • Nontraditional Careers: Cash-only Practice, Telemedicine
  • Hospital and Health System Jobs
  • Pharma Careers
  • Home-based jobs
  • Preparing for an interview, and using LinkedIn
  • And more…

And to make it even easier, listeners to this podcast can get a one-month Trial for only $1.00, using the Coupon Code TRIAL at nonclinicalphysicians.com/joinnca.


Thanks to our sponsor…

Thanks to the UT Physician Executive MBA program for sponsoring the show. It’s an outstanding, highly rated, MBA program designed for working physicians. It is just what you need to prepare for that fulfilling, well-paying career. You can find out more at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba.

If you enjoyed today’s episode, share it on Twitter and Facebook, and leave a review on iTunes.


Podcast Editing & Production Services are provided by Oscar Hamilton


Disclaimers:

Many of the links that I refer you to, and that you’ll find in the show notes, are affiliate links. That means that I receive a payment from the seller if you purchase the affiliate item using my link. Doing so has no effect on the price you are charged. And I only promote products and services that I believe are of high quality and will be useful to you, that I have personally used or am very familiar with.

The opinions expressed here are mine and my guest’s. While the information provided on the podcast is true and accurate to the best of my knowledge, there is no express or implied guarantee that using the methods discussed here will lead to success in your career, life, or business.

The information presented on this blog and related podcast is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only. It should not be construed as medical, legal, tax, or emotional advice. If you take action on the information provided on the blog or podcast, it is at your own risk. Always consult an attorney, accountant, career counselor, or other professional before making any major decisions about your career. 

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It Looks Like 2020 Should Be a Crazy-Good Year – 130 https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/crazy-good-year/ https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/crazy-good-year/#respond Tue, 18 Feb 2020 12:00:00 +0000 https://vitalpe.net/?p=4159 It's Time to Update You On this episode of Physician NonClinical Careers, I give you a behind-the-scenes look at all of the exciting new projects I’m developing for you this year. In order to maintain a web site, produce a podcast, and host online courses for you, I need to transition my role in this venture [...]

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It's Time to Update You

On this episode of Physician NonClinical Careers, I give you a behind-the-scenes look at all of the exciting new projects I’m developing for you this year.

In order to maintain a web site, produce a podcast, and host online courses for you, I need to transition my role in this venture from hobbyist to business owner. I started that process about 18 months ago

Now I continue that process by taking on three big projects that I should have up and going by the end of the first quarter. In this episode, I let you in on my plans and how I'm implementing them.

Our Sponsor

We're proud to have the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA Program, offered by the Haslam College of Business, as the sponsor of this podcast.

The UT PEMBA is the longest-running, and most highly respected physician-only MBA in the country, with over 650 graduates. And, unlike other programs, which typically run 1 – 1/2 to 2 years, this program only takes a year to complete. Recently, Economist Magazine ranked the business school #1 in the world for the Most Relevant Executive MBA.

While in the program, you'll participate in a company project, thereby contributing to your organization. As a result, University of Tennessee PEMBA students bring exceptional value to their organizations.

Graduates have taken leadership positions at major healthcare organizations. And they've become entrepreneurs and business owners.

By joining the University of Tennessee physician executive MBA, you will develop the business and management skills needed to advance your career. To find out more, contact Dr. Kate Atchley’s office by calling (865) 974-6526 or go to vitalpe.net/physicianmba.


Nonclinicalphysicians.com

The first project is a revitalization of my website. I’m doing a re-design of vitalpe.net, complete with a new domain name. After March 1, you’ll be able to find me at nonclinicalphysicians.com.

To go about updating my website, I completed the following steps:

  • Purchased several potential domain names and discussed with colleagues and my business coach before selecting one.
  • Hired a consultant to help me develop my website strategy.
  • Engaged a second consultant and brand-management expert to redesign my website.

The new website will have a much more modern, clean and user-friendly layout. But it will contain all of the blog posts and podcast show notes from the old site. It will also highlight some brand new offerings for my readers, listeners and students.

 

Nonclinical Career Academy

The second big project I'm working on is a membership site. It contains 12 courses, including the four that I had previously released. And I’ll be adding new content every month. It will focus on introducing members to a broad range of potential nontraditional careers and guiding them through career transitions.

Members will have access to lectures by me as well as interviews, audio recordings, and new video interviews. By using the discount code I give in the episode, the first 25 enrollees can save $30 per month off the usual monthly subscription rate.

To create the Academy, here are some of the major steps I took:

  • Converted my Teachable platform to a membership program by bundling all of the existing courses under a single “master” course.
  • Used ScreenFlow to record 8 additional courses, and added them to the Academy.
  • Sent out a series of launch emails using MailChimp.
  • Set up my first webinar to provide 45 minutes of free content and promote the Academy launch using WebinarJam.

It's going to be a fun ride, and I'll share it with you all of you, my Fearless Nonclinical Physician Family, as we move forward.

John Jurica

Clinicians Career Cooperative

The third and final project I'm announcing on this episode is a private forum. While I love engaging in the Physician Nonclinical Career Hunters Facebook group, it has its limitations. If Facebook were ever to stop supporting its groups, the almost 13,000 members involved would lose their community.

More importantly, though, a private forum is a place for those members who are truly engaged to communicate in a more liberated way. And there will be expert Mentors available to interact with on dozens of nontraditional career options, from telemedicine and locum tenens, to hospital based management careers, home-based businesses and pharma jobs.

Mentors will be able to assist a larger audience than they would through their email lists. And they will have the freedom to suggest more resources than our Facebook group allows, including paid resources. Therefore, members will receive more open, potentially useful advice.

With all of these projects unfolding soon, 2020 promises to be an exciting year for all of us. I am thrilled to have the opportunity to share new resources, and I hope you will continue to join me.


Links for today's episode:

Thanks to our sponsor…

Thanks to the UT Physician Executive MBA program for sponsoring the show. It’s an outstanding, highly rated, MBA program designed for working physicians. It might be just what you need to prepare for that joyful, well-paying career. You can find out more at vitalpe.net/physicianmba.

I hope to see you next time on the PNC Podcast.

If you enjoyed today’s episode, share it on Twitter and Facebook, and leave a review on iTunes.


Podcast Editing & Production Services are provided by Oscar Hamilton.


Disclaimers:

The opinions expressed here are mine and my guest’s. While the information provided on the podcast is true and accurate to the best of my knowledge, there is no express or implied guarantee that using the methods discussed here will lead to success in your career, life or business. 

Many of the links that I refer you to, and that you’ll find in the show notes, are affiliate links. That means that I receive a payment from the seller if you purchase the affiliate item using my link. Doing so has no effect on the price you are charged. And I only promote products and services that I believe are of high quality and will be useful to you, that I have personally used or am very familiar with.

The information presented on this blog and related podcast is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only. It should not be construed as medical, legal, tax, or emotional advice. If you take action on the information provided on the blog or podcast, it is at your own risk. Always consult an attorney, accountant, career counsellor, or other professional before making any major decisions about your career. 


Right click here and “Save As” to download this podcast episode to your computer.

Here are the easiest ways to listen:

vitalpe.net/itunes  – vitalpe.net/stitcher  

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